The Real Debate

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Ego net cost.

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Welcome to Ego Net cost live streaming.

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I am Martin Lindeskop and this session will be then an editing edited version, episode 132 of

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Ego Net cost.

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And it's middle.

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I have some talking points here mid year, week 26.

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And in a way, I'm happy to start with ego Net cost.

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Again, last episode or previous episode was end of last year.

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I been having plenty of podcasts running and ego Net cost is my first podcast.

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So now it's still first day in american time, it's Friday in swedish time, european time,

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and then it's tourstog.

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And that's first day.

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Thorstag is with Thor God, norse God.

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So that's in Swedish Thorsdog.

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And I will use the Thor's hammer and ventilate a bit.

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And I had to talk with my co host, Blair of the secular foxhole about the debate, the

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debate night hash, debatenight on Twitter and other places.

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And I was thinking of, should I watch this or not?

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And in a way, I'm happy that I did that.

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And also, why did I watch it for 90 minutes?

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Plus, I had recently invitation by Robert Beagley that had been a guest and returning

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guest on the secular foxhole, this professional speaker and also helping other

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speakers.

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So he has a course on the forum for speakers

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elite forum.

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And now I'll see here, it's live on air on

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YouTube and LinkedIn.

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And something is up with Facebook.

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I don't know what, but I have to check with Boomcaster and Facebook settings.

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So I was reflecting on that, on this debate between Trump and Biden and all the settings

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and all the rules and specifications for this debate.

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Of course, it's a challenge to then talk and do talking points, questions from this panel

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for 90 minutes without any like, show notes that I'm showing now on live, like a note card

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or some prompt for your memory and whatnot.

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And then, of course, it's this back and forth

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between two candidates, you could say, and opponents.

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So, yeah, that's a challenge.

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And why comment on this is, it's due to this

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thing called freedom of expression, freedom of speech.

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Free speech.

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And to have a real debate.

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This was a debate between two candidates, former president and the now president in

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power.

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And then it's the election year coming up

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here, and who will run the country and become a commander in chief for next four years.

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And yeah, it's a sad state, you could say, and I will do an ending and reflect on history a

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bit regarding debates.

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When it started with television, in a way, it

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got popular in the sixties so this is something to ponder and think about.

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And then in America, and I will talk more about this, how it is in Sweden and European

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Union.

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And we had recent elections very also that it

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was with two candidates from Democratic Party and the Republican Party, but no third parties

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or independent candidates.

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And CNN, it's a private company and they are

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of course allowed and up to them to set the rules for the debate.

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And I think it's, is it ABC News that will have the second one, if it will be one, but

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then you have to show in order to be another opponent or candidate or speaker, you have to

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have certain polls and surveys, certain amount, I think it was 1015 percent or whatnot

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to reach that.

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And then the whole system, in order to have in

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all the districts and all the places to have a candidate being a candidate on the ballot that

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is challenged.

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So that's something to think about.

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The whole system in America as we see it now.

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And that will be interesting to hear from

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experts and scholars and what will be the future here.

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So now I'm thinking of talking about for around 15 minutes and already talked for like,

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yeah, five, six minutes here.

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So, so what Robert F. Kennedy junior did,

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because he is like an independent candidate, I think he's registered as a Democrat and he's a

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bit of a character, you could say, with his heritage and relatives and ancestors and the

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political line there and in the debate.

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I don't know if swedish mainstream media will

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talk at all about him as a candidate and what he wanted to do.

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And you could listen to all, he's all over the place.

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But he set up a site called the realdebate.com.

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and there he, John Stossel, that is a libertarian leaning individual.

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And he has his own show.

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He was on Fox News, I think now he's running

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his own show on the Internet.

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He was in the panel, you could say then, and

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then Robert F. Kennedy junior commented on Trump and Biden's answers to the questions.

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And so it took longer time with this one, you could say.

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And now I was watching the debate on something called, that's by James Critland.

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He has a service called LiveNow News where you could have click on different squares or

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symbols or small windows, you could say, and then a bigger window will open on the screen

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and you could watch news.

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So I watched the CNN live there and then on

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the phone.

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I drive then to watch go to the

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realdebate.com.

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and what's happened there?

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They got some error message and maybe it was traffic there and lots of visitors and

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viewers, and it was also should be linked to Twitter or x there.

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I also got an error message.

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And then over time, they went to rumble the

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video service so you could follow it where you had the chat thing and comments and thumbs up

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and down so you could follow that.

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So I watched that at the end also.

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And at the end, it's like these two minutes, they had this closing statement or remarks.

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And then, of course, Robert F. Kennedy did that.

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And you all have to practice on your speaking skills.

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And I'm doing that also myself.

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So that's why I'm so thankful for Robert

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Beagley inviting me to this forum and course, for speakers over a year, for a year time.

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So with Biden, but with Seclus Vauxhall, my co host Blair, he had a joke that is not so fun

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in a way, when you think about it, but it's going in the lines like one can't complete a

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sentence and one is sentenced to jail.

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So you hear Biden, his images and expressions,

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facial expressions, having a hard time stumbling with the words.

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And then you have Trump's way of doing things with his mimics and, yeah, doing his gestures

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and so on.

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And then you listen to Robert F. Kennedy.

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I think he has some kind of issue or how do you say, condition with his speech.

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I don't know what it is, if it's something with his throat or something.

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It sounds very.

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Yeah, a special thing to listen to.

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So it was hard overall.

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The thing that was the panel was because often

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in tv studios, they could be very harsh.

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And also that they ask you questions and don't

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listen to the answer.

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But there, I think it was pretty

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straightforward.

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And, of course, you could wonder about how

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they pick these different questions.

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And especially at the end, it was this, that

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Trump was not answering that about if he will accept the election and the results, and also

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about this violence with the January 16 that happened, with the storming of the capital and

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so on.

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I don't know if Joe Biden got that question.

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They should get the same questions.

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But I didn't watch that.

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So that's something to think about.

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And so I will continue doing this on

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Thursdays, live streaming around 15 minutes, talking about stuff and ventilating a bit in a

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civil manner.

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But that's the good thing, again, that we have

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freedom of expression and we could have a debate, discussion and discourse.

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So at the end here, I will include in the show notes when I edit the episode and post links

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to an article in Wired magazine online about TikTok live and independent candidates and

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third party candidates and how Robert Kennedy have attracted viewers there.

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And also reviews and summaries about the debate.

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That I will include.

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And following along here as an end note here

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is could you think about how the debate was tv debate, television debate between Nixon versus

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Kennedy in 1960s.

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They're so called people who listen to the

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radio and I will check with the survey.

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But when they said Nixon so called one debate.

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But when we saw him in the tv studio, we saw that he was having these facial problems and

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was on the spotlight in his face and all kind of things that they could you trust this

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person? So when Kennedy was polished and his things,

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so that was something that had lots of analysis and discussions about that and maybe

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that have shaped the whole debate thing in modern times.

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And there something that maybe you could think about with Trump and Biden, that you looked at

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Biden and maybe thought that he looked like Nixon.

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And when you looked like Trump, he's not same polished as Kennedy, but he was very secure in

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himself, even if he had his tics and jargon, his gestures.

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So that's something to think about.

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And then the whole discussion about this.

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What will happen now before the election and what will Biden be the running person or will

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Camilla Harris step in or somebody else? And also, Svend, is it time for third party

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candidates to be in the debates also? In either way.

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But I liked what they did with this realdebate.com and how you could use new media

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in order to have your voice and have your saying so.

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With that I say thanks for watching and talk to you soon again.

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Bye for now.

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Radhe ego net goddess.